eGroups Daily Digest: afb has 82 new messages. Click here http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47742 to read them. ----------------------------------------------------------------- 47742. Byron Re: which one is the best? 47743. Robert Johnston Re: AmiBench News 47744. Mark Wilson Re: Amibench on AFCD Roms. 47745. Kevin Fairhurst Re: Your website on Amiga Format CD52 47746. Graham Purvis Phase 5 47747. Andrew Bell Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement... 47748. Andrew Bell Re: V 47749. Andrew Bell Re: Pirated OS3.5 47750. Mark Wilson Re: bt go home 47751. Stephen Digital camera 47752. Jos Important info 47753. Jos Re: Pirated OS3.5 47754. riksweeney@hotmail.com Warp3D v3 47755. Mikey C Re: Phase 5 47756. Matthew J Fletcher Copyrights 47757. Eddie Maddock Spending frenzy revisited 47758. Tyler Saxton Re: AmiBench News 47759. Robert Johnston Re: AmiBench News 47760. Toffypops Phase5 down the drain? 47761. Paul Laycock Re: Spending frenzy revisited 47762. Gareth Lewis OS3.5 problems 47763. Mikey C Re: Phase5 down the drain? 47764. Simon John Hall Will we get the G4s? 47765. Robert Johnston Re: Phase5 down the drain? 47766. Ben Vost Re: Aweb Newicon 47767. Malcolm Campbell Re: FreesiteUK 47768. Malcolm Campbell Re: FreesiteUK 47769. Ben Vost Re: which one is the best? 47770. Ben Vost Re: Your website on Amiga Format CD52 47771. xatiminey AfCD134 Icons 47772. Ben Vost Re: Pirated OS3.5 47773. Peter Bell broken pcmcia and 1d4 motherboard fix. 47774. Ben Vost Re: AfCD134 Icons 47775. riksweeney@hotmail.com Re: Will we get the G4s? 47776. Matthew Garrett Re: Will we get the G4s? 47777. Errol Re: Guess what's on AF135? 47778. Errol Re: Speculation (was Guess what's on AF135?) 47779. riksweeney@hotmail.com Re: Will we get the G4s? 47780. Oliver Esberger Re: Phase5 down the drain? 47781. Errol The EMC opinion (was Guess what's on AF135?) 47782. Tudor Davies Re: The EMC opinion (was Guess what's on AF135?) 47783. Neil Bothwick Re: Aweb Newicon 47784. Neil Bothwick Re: Copyrights 47785. Neil Bothwick Re: Your website on Amiga Format CD52 47786. Kevin Fairhurst Re: The EMC opinion (was Guess what's on AF135?) 47787. Robert Johnston Re: The EMC opinion (was Guess what's on AF135?) 47788. Colin Buchanan What happens to my BlizzardPPC? 47789. c.r.buchanan@hw.ac.uk POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons 47790. Colin Buchanan Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons 47791. Mikey C Re: Phase5 down the drain? 47792. Paul Laycock Re: broken pcmcia and 1d4 motherboard fix. 47793. Paul Laycock Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons 47794. xatiminey Re: AfCD134 Icons 47795. xatiminey Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons 47796. Sean FT Re: What happens to my BlizzardPPC? 47797. xatiminey I'm off 47798. Sean FT How much is that PCB in the wi...... 47799. Christopher Ross-Gill Re: AfCD134 Icons 47800. Christopher Ross-Gill Re: Copyrights 47801. Ben Vost Re: How much is that PCB in the wi...... 47802. Ben Vost Re: AfCD134 Icons 47803. Anthony Prime Re: Spam? 47804. Anthony Prime Re: browsers 47805. Oliver Esberger Re: Phase5 down the drain? 47806. Sean FT Re: How much is that PCB in the wi...... 47807. c.r.buchanan@hw.ac.uk POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons (updated poll) 47808. Ben Vost Re: How much is that PCB in the wi...... 47809. Robert Johnston Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons (updated poll) 47810. Sean FT Re: I'm off 47811. Paul Laycock Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons 47812. Paul Laycock Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons (updated poll) 47813. Ben Vost Polls and AFCD's icons 47814. Robert Johnston Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons (updated poll) 47815. Sean FT Re: 3 State FF 47816. Rudi Butler Re: broken pcmcia and 1d4 motherboard fix. 47817. Chris Andrews Re: AmiBench News 47818. fool Re: network 47819. Neil Bothwick Re: browsers 47820. Matthew O'Neill Re: bt go home 47821. Ben Vost Re: bt go home 47822. Chris Andrews Re: bt go home 47823. Oliver Esberger Re: afb page ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 47742 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47742 From: Byron Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:25:07 -0400 In-Reply-To: <88gdst$3l0c@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: which one is the best? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17-Feb-00, Erol Ismael wrote: > A3000 16/50 6MB ram (1 w/Doubletalk) > A3000 25/100 10MB ram > A3000 16/50 14MB ram (040 Accel., Picasso II, Doubletalk) > A3000 25/50 18MB ram (VLAB) > = > Also is =A3800 pounds a good price for the A3000T with 486 Bridge card > and sound card. Comes with normal accesories plus WB 3.5 installed. I would go with the A3000 16/50 14MB ram (040 Accel., Picasso II, Doubletalk)-accel and GFX card are a big plus and second the A3000 25/50 18MB ram (VLAB), I do a lot of video stuff and would need the VLAB. I paid about $300 for my second A3000 16/030. Wh= at sound card is in the A3000T? could you upgrade the bridgeboards processor= (removable)? Byron ------------------------------ message 47743 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47743 From: Robert Johnston Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:06:43 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: AmiBench News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Wilson [mailto:tecnobab@stayfree.co.uk] > Sent: 17 February 2000 19:53 > To: afb@egroups.com > Subject: [afb] AmiBench News > > Currently We have no way of logging the Internet Address (IP) > of the person > who is doing this (We are working on this though), As its > happend twice in two days, and if it continues, It may force > us to *close*AmiBench. In your CGI-scripts (Or whatever you use), save out the IP_ADDR field (I'm sure it's something like that, I haven't done PERL programming in a LONG time!) -- Robert Johnston (A.C.P.) Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers 0870 727 4020 x657 Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk PERL's come from Oysters, Don't they? ------------------------------ message 47744 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47744 From: Mark Wilson Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:30:11 +0000 In-Reply-To: <014401bf7990$e66b33a0$38809fd4@no1> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Amibench on AFCD Roms. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 17-Feb-00, Jonathan wrote this: > You`d better say sorry again to everyone else to whom you sent this ;-) > I can`t really see the point of AmiBench appearing on the CD since by > the time you looked at the site, isn`t it likely that what you wanted > would already be sold? The words ARSE!, sprung to mind once I'd realised the mail had been sent with CC's. Oh well. Sorry. ;) Your dead right, and like I said, AmiBench is CGI Driven, so that would'nt help. -- Mark 'tecno' Wilson Team Member of AmiBench Web: http://www.AmiBench.org Email: mark@amibench.org ------------------------------ message 47745 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47745 From: "Kevin Fairhurst" Date: 18 Feb 2000 08:41:45 +0000 In-Reply-To: <731.82T2545T13515427neil@wire.net.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Your website on Amiga Format CD52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 17 Feb 2000 22:31:50 +0000, Neil Bothwick (neil@wire.net.uk) wrote: > Bob said, > > > Did anyone else have problems with this posting > > from Errol, today, 17/02/00. > > When I opened it I had a recoverable alert: > > Error: 0100 00F, Task: 17AB2638. > > I noticed a whole lot of cc's attached to the > > header, but no text. > > The CC: header was too long (the limit is either 500 or 1000 > characters). THOR dealt with it by showing the rest in the body of the > mail, it appears MD-II takes a more colourful approach :-/ Is this a stack related problem, or merely a bug in MD2? And does anyone fancy editing the executable with a hex editor to fix it? ;-) Kev -- Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM ------------------------------ message 47746 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47746 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 00:57:46 -0800 From: "Graham Purvis" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Phase 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have just received an e-mail from White Knight Technology saying that Phase 5 have gone bankrupt, can anyone shed any light on this? ------------------------------ message 47747 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47747 From: Andrew Bell Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:17:38 +0000 In-Reply-To: <1217.80T2326T8166201T.A.S@bigpond.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Tim, On 15-Feb-00 you wrote: [afb] Re: MUI - was: A crappy announcement... > Really, just how ESSENTIAL is MUI to making a graphical user > interface? It's not essential. It lets the programmer spend more time on his program, rather than worry about little details like font sizes, screen modes, colour depth, border sizes, IDCMP messages, window refreshing, window resizing, widget layout/positions, menu events, listview linked list handling, public screen details, gadget activation flags, gadget updates, proportional quantities, embedded images ... need I go on? With MUI, all of these details are abstracted away from the programmer, allowing him to put more thought and effort into his program. With MUI, you define a set of windows for you application, each window contains a set of horizontal or veritcal rectangular groups. Each group contains one or more gadgets or even more sub-groups (like a tree), and so on. This tree allows programmers to construct entire user interfaces with one or two pages of code. After this, you setup the notification details of your gadgets and MUI will do the rest for you. > If AWeb can make a browser that uses a GUI we don't have to pay for, > then it can be done. Of course it can be done, just expect updates of that program to be slower when the programmer adds a few extra tick boxes or buttons to his user interface. > Prettiness of MUI aside, I just don't beleive that MUI is the only > way they could have been programmed. After all, the rest of the > programming has got to be far more complicated than just getting the > GUI looking nice. Getting the GUI to look "nice" is a lot harder than it sounds. It's a tedious process that MUI removes. Royalties for Amiga programs these days aren't what they used to be, so most Amiga programmers will look for as many shortcuts as possible, when it comes to writing complex programs. Would you rather paint your room's ceiling with a toothbrush or a roller? :) Regards, Andrew Bell. -- +----------------------------------------+ email: mailto:andrew.ab2000@bigfoot.com web: http://www.andrewb.exl.co.uk +----------------------------------------+ Drag & Drop: How a caveman took a wife. ------------------------------ message 47748 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47748 From: Andrew Bell Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:35:45 +0000 In-Reply-To: <1309.80T1697T10914916T.A.S@bigpond.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: V MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Tim, On 15-Feb-00 you wrote: [afb] Re: V > And a whole swag of files that can cause nasty bugs (Class Act isn't > immune from this either). MUI is badly organised. Anybody can make a > MCC, and spread it about, no matter how badly programmed it is. Same goes for libraries, devices and all software in general. Anybody with half a brain and access to a compiler can produced buggy software. This doesn't make the OS badly organised. > Authors go around patching MCCs to hack them into their programs, > breaking their operation with other MUI programs. I've yet to see a patched "MCC". > Users often have > to update half a dozen MUI files when installing a new program, then > go hunting around for bug fixes for all the newly installed MCCs. That's not MUI's fault. All modular systems suffer from this problem. Regards, Andrew Bell. -- +----------------------------------------+ email: mailto:andrew.ab2000@bigfoot.com web: http://www.andrewb.exl.co.uk +----------------------------------------+ For sale, one satellite. As is, where is, you collect it. ------------------------------ message 47749 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47749 From: Andrew Bell Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 05:47:18 +0000 In-Reply-To: <88e0cv$hhk3@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Pirated OS3.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mad, On 16-Feb-00 you wrote: [afb] Pirated OS3.5 > I think I`ve just come across a pireted version of OS3.5. > = > Take a look at this UAE site: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > = > It is stored in a ADF hardfile. = > = > Im not sure what I can really do about stopping the piracy of this > software but those of you in the know might be able to. The piracy > of 1.3-OS3.1 can not be stopped as it is spread far and wide but the > piracy of OS3.5 must stop and not be allowed to spread. Don't you think it was a bit stupid posting that URL to a public mailing list with nearly a thousand people subscribed? Regards, Andrew Bell. -- = +----------------------------------------+ = email: mailto:andrew.ab2000@bigfoot.com web: http://www.andrewb.exl.co.uk +----------------------------------------+ Captain, we are being scanned! =B3=BA=DE=BA=B3=BA=B3=DB=B3=BA=DD=B3=BA=DD= =B3=B3 ------------------------------ message 47750 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47750 From: Mark Wilson Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:34:42 +0000 In-Reply-To: <016301bf7991$8730bbc0$38809fd4@no1> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: bt go home MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 17-Feb-00, Jonathan wrote this: > Very true, but then most Americans (possibly exaggerating slightly) > think the USA is the whole world... Mind you. that could be due to the size of the average american butt... :) -- Mark 'tecno' Wilson Team Member of AmiBench Web: http://www.AmiBench.org Email: mark@amibench.org ------------------------------ message 47751 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47751 From: Stephen Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 10:49:24 +1000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Digital camera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was wondering if anybody's tried Kodak's DC215 camera? If you have I'd like to hear what you think of it. -- http://www.iweb.net.au/~amiganut/ ------------------------------ message 47752 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47752 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:28:32 -0800 From: "Jos" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Important info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=B4m insisting on this, because I think it should be known, maybe more people will buy PPC. About two weeks or so I wrotte an e-mail to various main persons in the Amiga exposing my concerns about a problem that happened to me and that could happend to anyone. It was mainly about buying new hardware, specifically PPC hardware, but software too. I expressed the problem that if I buy a PPC accelerator I, most likely, like Fleecy Moss said in an interview, won=B4t be able to run the new upcaming Amiga OS, and in that interview it was also said that if I buy an IBM powerPC motherboard I will, most likely be able to run the new OS. So I=B4d be wasting money in a PPC accelerator, while I could be buying for more or less the same price, hardware that was prepared for the new Amiga. This is quite serious and I sopose many have thought about it. The answer came from Fleecy Moss himself, and I haven=B4t posted it yet, because I didn=B4t knew if I was sopposed to do that. I asked but got no answer, so since in my e-mail I said it was something that could affect us all, I now consider it is of course to share with other persons that can have that problem. I=B4m sorry you guys if I sometimes post and just disapear, but I=B4m in a computer room in the University of the Algarve and can=B4t do all I want. Regards: Jos=E9 The mail from Fleecy is here(:): We will do our best to support emulation of the PPC hybrids, so SW bought for PPC boards should still work on the classic emulator. There is no reason not to buy SW for PPC boards. For the HW, we are talking to a few companies about the potential for creating a motherboard which can take the PPC cards and then come up as a standard PPC machine, on which the new Amiga will run. We are trying. ------------------------------ message 47753 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47753 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:28:34 -0800 From: "Jos" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Pirated OS3.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think there is not much we can do really. And think what will happen we the new OS cames out! Because in the PC piracy is even worst. I wonder how windows is still alive!(:)) They sell it originally with the computer, but I don=B4t thing many will buy theh new OS originally, but you can bet many will try to pirate it. I don=B4t know one PC owner that doesn=B4t pirate. If they at Amiga don=B4t came across a way to avoid that, we=B4re dead at the moment we reborn! ------------------------------ message 47754 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47754 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:29:30 -0800 From: riksweeney@hotmail.com X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Warp3D v3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is now available ftp://ftp.haage-partner.com/3DWorld/Warp3D/Warp3D-3.0.lha ------------------------------ message 47755 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47755 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:57:14 -0800 From: "Mikey C" In-Reply-To: <88j1ia$2s0u@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Phase 5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "graham purvis" wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=47746 > I have just received an e-mail from White Knight Technology saying that > Phase 5 have gone bankrupt, can anyone shed any light on this? Where have you been? It's old news now. Look up Amiga.org or read back through the threads on this mailing list. (Erm you'll have to log on through the .net) Mikey C ------------------------------ message 47756 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47756 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 02:58:35 -0800 From: "Matthew J Fletcher" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Copyrights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Unless the authors have released them as PD, they are illegal, and > > there's nothing you can do about it. > > > > However, nobody (with a brain) is going to flame you for using them, > > as long as they're no-longer on sale, and you're not depriving anyone > > of money by using them. Common Sense is whats needed here,.. for example all the stuff on my website is copyright to me (its my work), and any copying of it is illigal, however i could prosecute everybody who views my site because they take several copys when they do so. - proxy cache,.. 1st copy - browser cache,.. 2nd copy - main memory cache,.. 3rd copy - graphcs memory,.. 4th copy - etc,.. This plainly breaks my copyright on the info stored on my web page, i could sue for visiting my website !! -matthew ------------------------------ message 47757 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47757 From: "Eddie Maddock" Date: 18 Feb 100 03:52:32 -0500 In-Reply-To: <88ed6h$hk9q@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Spending frenzy revisited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, Just when you thought you'd seen the back of it, Carl Berry tells me he doesn't want all the software up for grabs in the prize draw. Soooo... I've drawn a second name out of the big hat. And if the winner wants, he can have Wordworth 4SE and Ruffian (I've got a second copy of the platform game sitting here doing nothing, so you might as well have it if you want) Anyway, I've drawn the name, so do you want either of these... PAUL LAYCOCK If the answer's yes, then send us your address and I'll send them on to you. (If the answers no... well, the names are still in the big hat, and I will be rid of this software somehow !) Cheers, Eddie ------------------------------ message 47758 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47758 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 22:38:14 +1100 (EST) From: Tyler Saxton In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFCDC@THE_EXCHANGE> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: AmiBench News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Robert Johnston wrote: > > From: Mark Wilson [mailto:tecnobab@stayfree.co.uk] > > > > Currently We have no way of logging the Internet Address (IP) > > of the person > > who is doing this (We are working on this though), As its > > happend twice in two days, and if it continues, It may force > > us to *close*AmiBench. > > In your CGI-scripts (Or whatever you use), save out the IP_ADDR field (I'm > sure it's something like that, I haven't done PERL programming in a LONG > time!) > That is, you should use the "REMOTE_ADDR" environment variable for the IP address of the client. "REMOTE_HOST" will give the client machine's name, if the web server can get it... Once you've decided that it's a particular IP or range of IP addresses, you could have the script refuse requests immediately when the address matches, if you like. Tyler. ----- Tyler Saxton Programmer -- Academic Support Department of Computer Science and Software Engineering University of Melbourne, Australia. ------------------------------ message 47759 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47759 From: Robert Johnston Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:47:34 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: AmiBench News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: Tyler Saxton [mailto:tls@bill.trinity.unimelb.edu.au] > Sent: 18 February 2000 11:38 > To: 'afb@egroups.com' > Subject: [afb] Re: AmiBench News > > > > Currently We have no way of logging the Internet Address (IP) > > > of the person > > > who is doing this (We are working on this though), As its > > > happend twice in two days, and if it continues, It may force > > > us to *close*AmiBench. > > > > In your CGI-scripts (Or whatever you use), save out the > IP_ADDR field (I'm > > sure it's something like that, I haven't done PERL > programming in a LONG > > time!) > > > > That is, you should use the "REMOTE_ADDR" environment > variable for the IP > address of the client. "REMOTE_HOST" will give the client > machine's name, > if the web server can get it... > > Once you've decided that it's a particular IP or range of IP > addresses, > you could have the script refuse requests immediately when the address > matches, if you like. > > Tyler Saxton Programmer -- Academic Support > Department of Computer Science and Software Engineering > University of Melbourne, Australia. Don't I feel small! Mind you, in my defense, I must say that I always set IP_ADDR to REMOTE_HOST in my CGI scripts... -- Robert Johnston (A.C.P.) Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers 0870 727 4020 x657 Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk Okay, it's thin, but if you can get to my CGI scripts, you'll see it's true! ------------------------------ message 47760 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47760 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 03:56:24 -0800 From: "Toffypops" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Phase5 down the drain? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just got a rumor that Phase5 had gone down the drain... fact or fact? b=E5rd ------------------------------ message 47761 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47761 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:29:29 -0800 From: "Paul Laycock" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Spending frenzy revisited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Eddie, > Just when you thought you'd seen the back of it, Carl Berry tells me > he doesn't want all the software up for grabs in the prize draw. > > Soooo... I've drawn a second name out of the big hat. And if the > winner wants, he can have Wordworth 4SE and Ruffian (I've got a second > copy of the platform game sitting here doing nothing, so you might as > well have it if you want) > > Anyway, I've drawn the name, so do you want either of these... > PAUL LAYCOCK > (If the answers no... well, the names are still in the big > hat, and I will be rid of this software somehow !) Well Eddie, I'm gracious of your offer, but the answer is no. Sorry! Some other lucky person can have them. Paul Laycock ------------------------------ message 47762 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47762 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 04:59:39 -0800 From: "Gareth Lewis" <154462@swansea.ac.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] OS3.5 problems MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi you lot, I have a couple of complaints about OS3.5. Isn't there a ML for OS3.5 somewhere? I can't find it, so I'll moan here instead. - The Snapshot menu item does not recreate a deleted icon any more. This was a handy little feature at times. - The icon box in the Icon Information window does not accept directory icons (when you drag an icon in to copy its imagery). - Who are Marpet Developments? The OS3.5 version of ShowConfig thinks my Apollo RAM expansion board is made by Marpet Developments. Other, third-party (PD etc), ShowConfig replacements know it's an Apollo. Is there a Marpet/Apollo connection or is it a mistake? I also have a couple of other problems/complaints: - Trying to access any menus on the WB screen when the Format command is just beginning to format a floppy disk crashes the machine. It just seizes up completely with the floppy drive light on. Would this be anything to do with me running ToolsDaemon? I mean any menu access causes a crash, not just the ToolsDaemon added menus. - A slight moan this time: word wrap should be /optional/ in EditPad, because it's confusing otherwise when you edit scripts with long lines, e.g. a startup-sequence with a mile-long PATH command. That's my opinion anyway. And a completely unrelated problem: the /Ordering/ directory utility has a Y2K bug - it shows the year "00" as ":0" in the file listing windows. I haven't found an update. Although I could e-mail the author. If he's still updating it. Yes, I'll mail him. Is anyone else experiencing the OS3.5 problems, or is it just some peculiarity of my setup? Any ideas, anyone? Please? Cheers, Gareth. ------------------------------ message 47763 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47763 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 05:08:12 -0800 From: "Mikey C" In-Reply-To: <88jc18$96si@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Phase5 down the drain? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "toffypops" wrote: original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D47760 > I just got a rumor that Phase5 had gone down the drain... > > fact or fact? > > b=E5rd Aarrghhhh For the love of Ben Vost! (oh-er what am I saying!) ;) Look Phase 5 went down the Pan last week. It comes as no surprise, after all, they stopped production of their PPC 603 & 604 & Bvision range to concentrate on their new G4 cards. The problem was that they had no income coming in to keep them going. If they had continued to make the older cards they would still be in Business. Ask any Amiga Hardware retailer about their back orders and they'll weep. I have heard (from a good source) that in this country alone the total sum of back orders for the existing kit amounted to =A3100,000 pounds. More than enough to have kept them going. Basically they did a Commodore - Inept management. Regards Mikey C ------------------------------ message 47764 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47764 From: Simon John Hall Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:11:47 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Will we get the G4s? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I want my G4 and phase5 decide to close down just before they start to manufacture them. is any other company gonna take over? i want my G4 and CyberVisionNG! Also does anybody know how to mount a SMB drive on my filesystem? Simon Hall ------------------------------ message 47765 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47765 From: Robert Johnston Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:11:01 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Phase5 down the drain? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Mikey C [mailto:michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk] > Sent: 18 February 2000 13:08 > To: afb@eGroups.com > Subject: [afb] Re: Phase5 down the drain? >=20 > > I just got a rumor that Phase5 had gone down the drain... > >=20 > > fact or fact? > >=20 > > b=E5rd >=20 > Aarrghhhh For the love of Ben Vost! (oh-er what am I saying!) ;) I know Ben Vost's a big guy, but Com'on! > Look Phase 5 went down the Pan last week. Queue Flushing sound effect... > It comes as no surprise, after all, they stopped production of their > PPC 603 & 604 & Bvision range to concentrate on their new G4 cards. Silly, huh? > The problem was that they had no income coming in to keep them going. Alliteration, Repetition... "income coming in" > If they had continued to make the older cards they would still be in > Business. Poor business Judgement, perhaps... > Ask any Amiga Hardware retailer about their back orders and they'll > weep. I've not tried this one... > I have heard (from a good source) that in this country alone the = total > sum of back orders for the existing kit amounted to =A3100,000 = pounds. > More than enough to have kept them going. Ouch! What happens to THAT money? > Basically they did a Commodore - Inept management. As usual for a company associated with the Amiga... :( --=20 Robert Johnston (A.C.P.) Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers 0870 727 4020 x657 Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk RIP P5 ------------------------------ message 47766 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47766 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:13:12 +0000 In-Reply-To: <886.82T1412T9573890neil@wire.net.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Aweb Newicon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Neil, > Definitely. Chambers Thesaurus, which is nearer than my dictionary, > gives synonyms of artless and naive. Whereas ingenuous lists shifty and > two-faced. > Which were you calling me? :) Ohh, I'm feeling generous. Take your pick! :) All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Beware of geeks bearing GIF's ------------------------------ message 47767 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47767 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 05:17:30 -0800 From: "Malcolm Campbell" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: FreesiteUK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Matthew, > a co.uk addy only costs =A35? do you have to pay anything else after that? It was =A35 + VAT, although this offer is no longer available from theName.co.uk, however, you can get one for =A310 (including VAT, fowarding - email and web, and free transfer) from Easily. http://www.easily.co.uk Regards, -- Malcolm Campbell malcolm@freesiteuk.com FreesiteUK - http://www.freesiteuk.com ------------------------------ message 47768 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47768 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 05:24:04 -0800 From: "Malcolm Campbell" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: FreesiteUK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Richard, > The only real limitation is that you have to be connected to Free4all to > upload your web pages. Apart from that you don't need to log into you account > at all. I normally download any mail sent to my free4all address's via > Prestel. That means it goes in the ISP section not the web hosting section, otherwise I would have to put them all together - there are at least one hundred entries in each section. Have you tried IC24's free sunday offer - I assume it can be used on the Amiga although I cannot test this since I use my PC on-line now. > Also in the last day or so, Free4all have updated their web site, and very > nice it is too. Worth checking out as they've just added SSI and will be > including some new services very soon. I'll have a look. Regards, -- Malcolm Campbell malcolm@freesiteuk.com FreesiteUK - http://www.freesiteuk.com ------------------------------ message 47769 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47769 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:23:21 +0000 In-Reply-To: <014201bf7990$e4f9f060$38809fd4@no1> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: which one is the best? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jonathan, > Wow, with price estimates like that, are you interested in selling any > of your gear? ;-) > AFB: All polls MUST have dates, and if you have something to > sell use AmiBench! http://www.amibench.org/ Need I say anything more? All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Good Science: 'Tri' variants of compounds previously only available as 'Bi' ones ------------------------------ message 47770 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47770 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:25:29 +0000 In-Reply-To: <731.82T2545T13515427neil@wire.net.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Your website on Amiga Format CD52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Neil, >> Did anyone else have problems with this posting >> from Errol, today, 17/02/00. >> When I opened it I had a recoverable alert: >> Error: 0100 00F, Task: 17AB2638. >> I noticed a whole lot of cc's attached to the >> header, but no text. > The CC: header was too long (the limit is either 500 or 1000 > characters). THOR dealt with it by showing the rest in the body of the > mail, it appears MD-II takes a more colourful approach :-/ and YAM seems to ignore it... :) All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ tly this: http://www.lumine.net/engrish/index.html ------------------------------ message 47771 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47771 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:30:46 -0800 From: "xatiminey" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] AfCD134 Icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I suppose the icons on AFCD134 are supposed to look crap if you dont have OS3.5? -curry -- Turn on the box, Mr Spock is on the table. Doctor McCoy is unable to connect his brain. Sweating and straining, well it seemed so simple at the time... ------------------------------ message 47772 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47772 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:30:09 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Pirated OS3.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Andrew, >> Im not sure what I can really do about stopping the piracy of this >> software but those of you in the know might be able to. The piracy >> of 1.3-OS3.1 can not be stopped as it is spread far and wide but the >> piracy of OS3.5 must stop and not be allowed to spread. > Don't you think it was a bit stupid posting that URL to a public > mailing list with nearly a thousand people subscribed? Absolutely. If anyone else comes across a pirate site, please let *me* know, or H&P, through their anti-piracy site... All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ A glass is half-full to an optimist. To a pessimist, a glass is half- empty. An engineer thinks the glass is twice as big as it needs to be. ------------------------------ message 47773 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47773 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 05:36:52 -0800 From: "Peter Bell" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] broken pcmcia and 1d4 motherboard fix. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hey My pcmcia port on my a1200 has a bent pin and a broken port guide. Is there anyway i can fix this without paying for an expensive repair. Also does the 1d4 motherboard work with blizzard ppc cards without fixes and with clock cards. If it does need a fix is there a diy way to do so i don't have to pay something like thirty pounds to get it fixed. Finally will blizzard ppc cards work in the original case of the a1200 or does it need to be in a tower. thanks Peter ------------------------------ message 47774 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47774 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 13:35:42 +0000 In-Reply-To: <38ADBA06.7787@knowles-hill.devon.sch.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: AfCD134 Icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi xatiminey, > I suppose the icons on AFCD134 are supposed to look crap if you dont > have OS3.5? I was wondering when someone was going to ask about the icons. If you are running a current version of the OS, and not one that's six years out of date, they look fine... All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Stop metricationists! They are demanding their 454 grammes of flesh, and if we give them 2.54 centimetres they'll take 1.609 kilometres! ------------------------------ message 47775 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47775 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 06:10:14 -0800 From: riksweeney@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <374D73D3385AD311A3DF00A0C9FC21B304C82F@CLASSLINK-BDC> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Will we get the G4s? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I want my G4 and phase5 decide to close down just before they start to > manufacture them. is any other company gonna take over? i want my G4 and > CyberVisionNG! So do I. What we have to do is convince DCE that there is enough demand for them, you know 500 people want one, or maybe 1000. I believe there was enough demand when Phase 5 produced them. According to a Mac Shop a G4 400 is supposed to be the equivalent of a PIII 900... ------------------------------ message 47776 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47776 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:20:55 +0000 References: <374D73D3385AD311A3DF00A0C9FC21B304C82F@CLASSLINK-BDC> <88jjs6$puqc@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <88jjs6$puqc@eGroups.com>; from riksweeney@hotmail.com on Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 06:10:14AM -0800 From: Matthew Garrett X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Will we get the G4s? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 06:10:14AM -0800, riksweeney@hotmail.com wrote: > So do I. What we have to do is convince DCE that there is enough demand > for them, you know 500 people want one, or maybe 1000. I believe there > was enough demand when Phase 5 produced them. According to a Mac Shop a > G4 400 is supposed to be the equivalent of a PIII 900... Rubbish. In terms of integer performance, the Intel will blow the G4 away. Probably FPU stuff, too. Stuff that's optimised for the Altivec unit stands a better chance, but for most general-purpose work the PIII will be significantly faster. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk ------------------------------ message 47777 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47777 From: Errol Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:20:13 +0100 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Guess what's on AF135? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Jonathan, -> Oh good, it could have been for the macs we can now all emulate ;-) Yes but, even emulators and mac software running via an emulator runs on Amigas don't they? ;-) _This should not be considered as a hint!_ ->Could it be the most recent EMC CD perhaps? Would be a bit hard to put the latest EMC CD onto AFCD51 wouldn't it? best regards, Errol E.M.Computergraphic Developing award-winning CD-ROMS for the Amiga & PC CD-ROM compilers for Amiga Format magazine Suppliers of high quality compatible Inkjet Cartridges 8 Edith Road, Clacton, Essex. CO15 1JU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)1255 431389 Fax: +44 (0)1255 431696 ---- http://www.emcomp.demon.co.uk ---- ------------------------------ message 47778 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47778 From: Errol Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:47:55 +0100 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Speculation (was Guess what's on AF135?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Nick, -> Wow, it posts! :)) I thought you (Errol) was meant to lurk... :) Yeah! it does! ;-) I do lurk but due to work commitments (putting groovy stuff onto AFCDs) I don't really get the time to post very often. -> Errol you wouldn't be playing it down would ya? :) Me? Naaaah! -> My vote still goes for Draw Studio 2.... :) Hummmmm best regards, Errol E.M.Computergraphic Developing award-winning CD-ROMS for the Amiga & PC CD-ROM compilers for Amiga Format magazine Suppliers of high quality compatible Inkjet Cartridges 8 Edith Road, Clacton, Essex. CO15 1JU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)1255 431389 Fax: +44 (0)1255 431696 ---- http://www.emcomp.demon.co.uk ---- ------------------------------ message 47779 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47779 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 06:29:21 -0800 From: riksweeney@hotmail.com In-Reply-To: <20000218142054.A21021@cam.ac.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Will we get the G4s? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > G4 400 is supposed to be the equivalent of a PIII 900... > > Rubbish. In terms of integer performance, the Intel will blow the G4 > away. Probably FPU stuff, too. Stuff that's optimised for the Altivec unit > stands a better chance, but for most general-purpose work the PIII will be > significantly faster. > Yeah, but a Mac shop wouldn't tell you that would they? :D ------------------------------ message 47780 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47780 From: Oliver Esberger Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:28:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <88jg7s$os3p@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Phase5 down the drain? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Michael, On 18-Feb-00, you wrote: > I have heard (from a good source) that in this country alone the total > sum of back orders for the existing kit amounted to 100,000 pounds. > More than enough to have kept them going. I don't think they went bankrupt because of 100,000, besides it is 100,000 minus production costs and minus the time their lines could not produce mac boards... And I don't think they went bankrupt because of not producing Amiga cards, they made their money in the Macintosh market, and unfortunately for them their cards had not the best reputationlately. Regards -- Oliver Esberger - mailto:oliver@websale.de ------------------------------ message 47781 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47781 From: Errol Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:32:52 +0100 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] The EMC opinion (was Guess what's on AF135?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Guys, This is in response to Jonathan Day's recent posting regarding "What's on AF135" ->Could it be the most recent EMC CD perhaps? I have already replied to this posting separately but Jonathan's question sparked some inner emotion and although most of you won't be interested I thought that I'd take this opportunity to voice my opinions on the Amiga market. I'm fully expecting to be flamed for this but, in all honesty, I don't care since these are my thoughts and I stand by them... Without a doubt, the single most important reason for the decline of the Amiga is the end user and his seemingly stubborn reluctance to spend any bloody money on software. The Amiga needs software developers to survive and the developers need money to survive, the magazines need advertisers to survive and the advertisers need to sell products to survive. Is there a pattern emerging here? Most of the "big gun" developers have already abandoned the Amiga and the remaining few are now leaving on an seemingly daily basis. Gold Disk, ASDG, Electronic Arts, Scala, Aegis/Oxxi, Digita, Impulse, Softwood (to name a few) where responsible for bringing us some of the best software available on any computer and where are they now? Most of them are now developing their software for the PC and Mac platforms. Many of you will probably argue that this migration would probably have happened anyway and, to an extent, this is probably true. But you have to ask yourself "would it have happened so easily if I had actually bought their software?" A few years ago I sold the distribution rights for the EMC Phase 1 and 2 CDs to Future Publishing. This allowed Amiga Format to "give them away" with the magazine. I thought long and hard prior to signing the dotted line and my major concern at the time was that this would potentially kill any future sales of the Phase 1 and 2 CDs. I made the right choice! because the Amiga software market was already on the decline. As part of the distribution deal, Future heavily promoted the availability of Phase 3 (which had already received brilliant reviews in all the Amiga magazines) at a heavily reduced price. At the same time it was made clear that the EMC Phase 1, 2 and 3 CDs were designed as a complete set and that EMC Phase 3 would not be given away by Amiga Format so, the only way anybody already having Phase 1 and 2 could get Phase 3 was to order it direct from EMC. In theory, it was a great idea, in practise we managed to scrape together around 40 sales from the promotion, hardly inspiring. To add insult to injury Amiga Format received a steady stream of letters from readers asking when Phase3 was to be given away free! We in turn, received a steady stream of phone calls asking when we were giving Phase3 to Amiga Format. In one particular case, Amiga Format received about 10 letters from the same reader asking when they were putting Phase 3 on the cover. Although this isn't entirely relevent to the subject at hand I hope it illustrates the attitude that some Amiga users have. I have been lurking on the afb since it's inception and one thing that has surprised me is the amount of whinging; the price of "X" software, how many pages AF has, the fact that some demo software is restricted and so on... and for those of you that are guilty of this I have a few things to say: 1. "X" software would cost more than double on a PC and you would need to buy a new hard drive just to install it. 2. AF could afford more pages if more people advertised, and more advertisers would advertise if you bought thier products. 3. If you bought full versions of the demo software... Perhaps the best illustration of the "I don't want to spend any money on Amiga software" attitute are some of the replies to the "Guess what's on AF135?" posting... just look at the level of response to that one. Give something away for free and just look at the interest it provokes!!! One of you even stated that he was worried in case he went out and bought "135 Freebie" and then found it appearing on AF for free! Sigh... I rest my case. ... rant mode disabled... lurk mode enabled! best regards, Errol E.M.Computergraphic Developing award-winning CD-ROMS for the Amiga & PC CD-ROM compilers for Amiga Format magazine Suppliers of high quality compatible Inkjet Cartridges 8 Edith Road, Clacton, Essex. CO15 1JU United Kingdom Tel: +44 (0)1255 431389 Fax: +44 (0)1255 431696 ---- http://www.emcomp.demon.co.uk ---- ------------------------------ message 47782 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47782 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:42:55 +0100 From: Tudor Davies References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: The EMC opinion (was Guess what's on AF135?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 02:32:52PM +0100, Errol wrote: > Sigh... I rest my case. > ... rant mode disabled... lurk mode enabled! What is the email way of clapping? Errol has summed up the Amiga software market brilliantly. Fortunately, it would appear that he doesn't make money from the Amiga market (who does these days!), but his comments on how Amiga users view "buying" a product is correct. If you can get a pirate then so what? That started with the A500 and playground piracy, but once people had the idea that s/w could be obtained from a mate, they always think that way. Most have since moved from the Amiga to the PC - and they still do the same - someone in their office gets the Tango, Blobby or Arctic CDs and copies them for everyone. Problem is, the Amiga market is still seen that way - that's why we have lots of hardware development and not much software development. Sad innit :( l8r -- Tudor Davies Running Amiga, Mac, PC & Unices Technology in Perfect Harmony Team Member of AmiBench Web: http://www.AmiBench.org Specialist in Internet Security & ISP Email: tudor@high5.net Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ message 47783 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47783 Date: 18 Feb 2000 14:28:1 +0000 From: "Neil Bothwick" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Aweb Newicon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ben Vost said, > Hi Neil, >> Definitely. Chambers Thesaurus, which is nearer than my dictionary, >> gives synonyms of artless, naive, intelligent, witty and charming. >> Whereas ingenuous lists shifty and two-faced. >> Which were you calling me? :) > Ohh, I'm feeling generous. Take your pick! :) OK, I'll take "intelligent, witty and charming" :) Neil -- Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider http://www.wire.net.uk -- "B?#$^f," said Pooh, as line noise garbled his transmission. ------------------------------ message 47784 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47784 Date: 18 Feb 2000 14:33:10 +0000 From: "Neil Bothwick" In-Reply-To: <88j8kr$qeac@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Copyrights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matthew J Fletcher said, > Common Sense is whats needed here,.. for example all the stuff on my > website is copyright to me (its my work), and any copying of it is > illigal, however i could prosecute everybody who views my site because > they take several copys when they do so. > - proxy cache,.. 1st copy > - browser cache,.. 2nd copy You've given implicit permission for these by not including no-cache headers. > - main memory cache,.. 3rd copy > - graphcs memory,.. 4th copy and for these, since the purpose of a web page it to be viewed, by anyone unless you put it behind a password. > This plainly breaks my copyright on the info stored on my web page, i > could sue for visiting my website !! As you say, "Common Sense is whats needed here". Neil -- Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider http://www.wire.net.uk -- The Flintstones probably had a PC! ------------------------------ message 47785 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47785 Date: 18 Feb 2000 14:30:6 +0000 From: "Neil Bothwick" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Your website on Amiga Format CD52 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Kevin Fairhurst said, > On 17 Feb 2000 22:31:50 +0000, Neil Bothwick (neil@wire.net.uk) wrote: >> The CC: header was too long (the limit is either 500 or 1000 >> characters). THOR dealt with it by showing the rest in the body of the >> mail, it appears MD-II takes a more colourful approach :-/ > Is this a stack related problem, or merely a bug in MD2? And does anyone > fancy editing the executable with a hex editor to fix it? ;-) A bug, probably related to the one that causes MD-II to abort a mail download if it finds a mail with corrupt or illegal headers. Neil -- Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider http://www.wire.net.uk -- ...context... ------------------------------ message 47786 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47786 From: "Kevin Fairhurst" Date: 18 Feb 2000 14:46:21 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: The EMC opinion (was Guess what's on AF135?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:32:52 +0100, Errol (errol@emcomp.demon.co.uk) wrote: > Hi Guys, 'lo! [snip!] > One of you even stated that he was worried in case he went out and bought > "135 Freebie" and then found it appearing on AF for free! > > Sigh... I rest my case. It does suck big time, doesn't it? I know I've been on about it almost as much as everyone else, but I'm genuinely interested in what the freebie is, even though I probably already own it! :-) > ... rant mode disabled... lurk mode enabled! I think it's good to hear the point of view of a developer as well as end users. BTW if it sparks any real interest, I might be willing to offer some "prizes" for another spending frenzy next month. Maybe the only way to get people buying stuff is to offer them the chance of a freebie! :-/ Kev -- Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM ------------------------------ message 47787 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47787 From: Robert Johnston Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:49:23 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: The EMC opinion (was Guess what's on AF135?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > -----Original Message----- > From: Errol [mailto:errol@emcomp.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 18 February 2000 13:33 > To: afb@egroups.com > Subject: [afb] The EMC opinion (was Guess what's on AF135?) >=20 > Hi Guys, Hi Errol! > This is in response to Jonathan Day's recent posting regarding = "What's > on AF135" Okay... > ->Could it be the most recent EMC CD perhaps? Bloody stupid question in my opinion... > I have already replied to this posting separately but=20 > Jonathan's question > sparked some inner emotion and although most of you won't be=20 > interested I > thought that I'd take this opportunity to voice my opinions=20 > on the Amiga > market. I'm fully expecting to be flamed for this but, in all=20 > honesty, I > don't care since these are my thoughts and I stand by them... That's what I like to see... Courage in your convictions... > Without a doubt, the single most important reason for the=20 > decline of the > Amiga is the end user and his seemingly stubborn reluctance=20 > to spend any > bloody money on software. The Amiga needs software developers=20 > to survive > and the developers need money to survive, the magazines need=20 > advertisers > to survive and the advertisers need to sell products to=20 > survive. Is there > a pattern emerging here? As always... Comments below... > Most of the "big gun" developers have already abandoned the=20 > Amiga and the > remaining few are now leaving on an seemingly daily basis. Gold Disk, > ASDG, Electronic Arts, Scala, Aegis/Oxxi, Digita, Impulse, Softwood > (to name a few) where responsible for bringing us some of the best > software available on any computer and where are they now?=20 > Most of them > are now developing their software for the PC and Mac platforms. We're only a small market, and Cutbacks have hit the smallest computer system... You guessed it... > Many of you will probably argue that this migration would=20 > probably have > happened anyway and, to an extent, this is probably true. But=20 > you have to > ask yourself "would it have happened so easily if I had=20 > actually bought > their software?" Yes! See the point above. Why should a developer sell a product for = =A355 when they can sell 20x the number of units at 10x the price? > A few years ago I sold the distribution rights for the EMC=20 > Phase 1 and 2 > CDs to Future Publishing. This allowed Amiga Format to "give=20 > them away" > with the magazine. I thought long and hard prior to signing the = dotted > line and my major concern at the time was that this would potentially > kill any future sales of the Phase 1 and 2 CDs. I made the=20 > right choice! > because the Amiga software market was already on the decline. See point above. :( > As part of the distribution deal, Future heavily promoted the=20 > availability > of Phase 3 (which had already received brilliant reviews in=20 > all the Amiga > magazines) at a heavily reduced price. At the same time it=20 > was made clear > that the EMC Phase 1, 2 and 3 CDs were designed as a complete=20 > set and that > EMC Phase 3 would not be given away by Amiga Format so, the=20 > only way anybody > already having Phase 1 and 2 could get Phase 3 was to order=20 > it direct from > EMC. In theory, it was a great idea, in practise we managed to scrape > together around 40 sales from the promotion, hardly inspiring. Agreed. > To add insult to injury Amiga Format received a steady stream=20 > of letters > from readers asking when Phase3 was to be given away free! We in = turn, > received a steady stream of phone calls asking when we were=20 > giving Phase3 > to Amiga Format. In one particular case, Amiga Format=20 > received about 10 > letters from the same reader asking when they were putting=20 > Phase 3 on the > cover. Although this isn't entirely relevent to the subject at hand I > hope it illustrates the attitude that some Amiga users have. Mainly because we've gotten used to distributors selling the stuff to = CD's at an extremely reduced rate and leaving the Amiga market (Look at = Softwood, Scala, Gold Disk etc...) > I have been lurking on the afb since it's inception and one thing = that > has surprised me is the amount of whinging; the price of "X" = software, > how many pages AF has, the fact that some demo software is restricted > and so on... and for those of you that are guilty of this I have a = few > things to say: >=20 > 1. "X" software would cost more than double on a PC and you would = need > to buy a new hard drive just to install it. > 2. AF could afford more pages if more people advertised, and more > advertisers would advertise if you bought thier products. > 3. If you bought full versions of the demo software... >=20 > Perhaps the best illustration of the "I don't want to spend any money > on Amiga software" attitute are some of the replies to the=20 > "Guess what's > on AF135?" posting... just look at the level of response to that one. > Give something away for free and just look at the interest it=20 > provokes!!! Well, it's also a prediction as to who's leaving the market next... > One of you even stated that he was worried in case he went=20 > out and bought > "135 Freebie" and then found it appearing on AF for free! Well, he'd probably return the product if he found it on the CD, so = your point is? > Sigh... I rest my case. Unfortunately, so do I. --=20 Robert Johnston (A.C.P.) Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers 0870 727 4020 x657 Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk I'm not a pessimist, just a realist. ------------------------------ message 47788 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47788 From: Colin Buchanan Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 14:57:08 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] What happens to my BlizzardPPC? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, Given that phase 5 have gone bust (yes, I've known since last week), where do I stand with my BlizzardPPC card waiting for repair with phase5? It was sent to them months ago. However, I don't expect it has been repaired, more likely just lying somewhere. Aaargh... I really am quite annoyed. What is likely to happen? Can I get any money back from anywhere? -- Colin Buchanan Heriot-Watt University ------------------------------ message 47789 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47789 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:08:08 -0800 From: c.r.buchanan@hw.ac.uk X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 18/02/00 What do you think about the new style OS3.5 GlowIcons on AFCD50? ---- Please select one of the following: o They're great. Keep them. o Horrible! Get the tasty old style (newicons) back, but converted to OS3.5 format. o I hate them! Just use the newicons from previous AFCDs. None of this OS3.5 nonsense. o Everything I've ever seen so far is revolting. Make something new! o I don't mind, let the wise leaders at AF decide. o Make them all orange to go with the magazine colour scheme. by going to the following Web form: http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=950886488214&listname=afb Thank you! ------------------------------ message 47790 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47790 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:13:09 -0800 From: "Colin Buchanan" In-Reply-To: <88jn8o+k0mj@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > 18/02/00 What do you think about the new style OS3.5 GlowIcons on AFCD50? > Why is it a closed poll? This is not what I meant, violating the AFB rules! It must be destroyed immediately! ------------------------------ message 47791 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47791 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:19:44 -0800 From: "Mikey C" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Phase5 down the drain? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Hello Michael, > > On 18-Feb-00, you wrote: > > > I have heard (from a good source) that in this country alone the total > > sum of back orders for the existing kit amounted to =A3100,000 pounds. > > More than enough to have kept them going. > > I don't think they went bankrupt because of =A3100,000, besides it is > =A3100,000 minus production costs and minus the time their lines > could not produce mac boards... And I don't think they went bankrupt > because of not producing Amiga cards, they made their money in the > Macintosh market, and unfortunately for them > their cards had not the best reputation=A0lately. Which is why they should have concentrated on the Amiga Market more. I am aware that they have to deduct their costs from the actual =A3100,000 in the UK. Remember, that 100,000 figure is the estimated amount for the UK only. Add the rest of the world to that (Let's face it, the German Amiga market is much bigger than the UK. (add US, Canada, rest of Europe and Australia) and I bet you it comes to a damn sight more than =A3100,000. Now you have a huge backlog of orders for the Amiga. The more you produce, the lower your costs. So in the end if they had switched production to the Amiga, they would not have gone bankrupt. Kapish? Regards Mikey C ------------------------------ message 47792 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47792 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:28:40 -0800 From: "Paul Laycock" In-Reply-To: <88jhtk$qg0i@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: broken pcmcia and 1d4 motherboard fix. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Peter, > My pcmcia port on my a1200 has a bent pin and a broken port guide. Is > there anyway i can fix this without paying for an expensive repair. You just have to be *very* careful... > Also does the 1d4 motherboard work with blizzard ppc cards without > fixes and with clock cards. It worked in mine for ages before I swapped the motherboard for a 1b. However, thats not to say it'll work in yours; every Amiga has a different spirit. Adding further expansion my prove a problem, what with timimg problems. > Finally will blizzard ppc cards work in the original case of the a1200 > or does it need to be in a tower. Yes, but make sure there is a). a bigger PSU connected to your 1200, and b). there is plenty of airflow. Since you seem a DIY guy, you can find PSU alterations on Aminet. Better airflow can be achieved by raising the A1200 by putting 'feet' on each corner, plus a chuffing great fan instead of the small one on the PPC board. Paul Laycock ------------------------------ message 47793 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47793 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 07:38:03 -0800 From: "Paul Laycock" In-Reply-To: <88jn8o+k0mj@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi ppl, > Please select one of the following: > > o They're great. Keep them. > o Horrible! Get the tasty old style (newicons) back, but converted to OS3.5 format. > o I hate them! Just use the newicons from previous AFCDs. None of this OS3.5 nonsense. > o Everything I've ever seen so far is revolting. Make something new! > o I don't mind, let the wise leaders at AF decide. > o Make them all orange to go with the magazine colour scheme. How about "They're okay; I'd like them a bit more if they weren't done by Matt Sealey" ;) Paul Laycock ------------------------------ message 47794 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47794 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:43:11 -0800 From: "xatiminey" References: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: AfCD134 Icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Ben Vost wrote: > > Hi xatiminey, > > > I suppose the icons on AFCD134 are supposed to look crap if you dont > > have OS3.5? > > I was wondering when someone was going to ask about the icons. If you are > running a current version of the OS, and not one that's six years out of > date, they look fine... > I was just checking. Care to lend me 40 odd quid toward the cost of OS3.5, 3.1 ROMs, Boing Bag.. oh and a new hd so I have somewhere to put it all? =) Anyway, I'm used to worse. The origional 4 col icon are invisble! with 8bit screens they're completely invisible, with 7bit they're marginally visble etc. Its something to do with background images with lots of colours, and newicons transparent icon option (It just seems to take the option a little too literaly with the old icons =) -curry -- Turn on the box, Mr Spock is on the table. Doctor McCoy is unable to connect his brain. Sweating and straining, well it seemed so simple at the time... ------------------------------ message 47795 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47795 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:47:51 -0800 From: "xatiminey" References: <88jp0r$ou3o@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Laycock wrote: > How about "They're okay; I'd like them a bit more if they weren't done > by Matt Sealey" ;) > Hey! Don't slag him off behind his back! What about, "They're better than those nasty black ones" or "I don't know - I don't have OS3.5 yet so all the colours are psycadelic" or "Wow, groovy man, want some more mushrooms?" =P -curry -- Turn on the box, Mr Spock is on the table. Doctor McCoy is unable to connect his brain. Sweating and straining, well it seemed so simple at the time... ------------------------------ message 47796 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47796 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:47:23 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: What happens to my BlizzardPPC? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Colin On 18-Feb-00, you wrote: > > It was sent to them months ago. However, I don't expect it > has been repaired, more likely just lying somewhere. > Aaargh... I really am quite annoyed. What is likely to > happen? Can I get any money back from anywhere? Was it sent back through another firm or directly to Phase 5.If the latter then you should have phoned them first and got a repair number.Which you quote when making enquiries about your card.Try phoning them direct,they must have a contact number. Cheers, Sean. POWERED BY: A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto it! (Any offers!) You cannot kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau ------------------------------ message 47797 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47797 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:12:12 -0800 From: "xatiminey" X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] I'm off MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm off for half term. In the unlikely event that someone should actually want to contact me mailto:atiminey@curator.connectfree.co.uk is my main home address. bye. -curry -- Turn on the box, Mr Spock is on the table. Doctor McCoy is unable to connect his brain. Sweating and straining, well it seemed so simple at the time... ------------------------------ message 47798 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47798 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:12:10 +0100 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] How much is that PCB in the wi...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi ya all, Does anyone know how much a Merlin 4mb graphic card (pristine condition,no box) and a Macrovision2000 FlickerFixer are each worth.A couple of mates will buy them but i do not know how much each is worth. Cheers, Sean. POWERED BY: A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto it! (Any offers!) Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will pick himself up and carry on... -- Winston Churchill ------------------------------ message 47799 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47799 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 15:27:12 +0000 From: Christopher Ross-Gill References: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: AfCD134 Icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ben Vost wrote: > > running a current version of the OS, and not one that's six years out > of date, Surely that should be three to four years out of date (due to the forward-thinking nature of the Amiga OS), it was just /released/ six years ago :-) Two to three years maybe even. On another point, if you're going to throw your lot in with OS 3.5 (you imply this will increasingly be the case), there is no need for a floppy edition of AF, CD being a pre-requisite for OS 3.5, right? - Chris ------------------------------ message 47800 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47800 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:09:07 +0000 From: Christopher Ross-Gill References: <88j8kr$qeac@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Copyrights MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matthew J Fletcher wrote: > > Common Sense is whats needed here,.. for example all the stuff on my > website is copyright to me (its my work), and any copying of it is > illigal, however i could prosecute everybody who views my site because > they take several copys when they do so. > > - proxy cache,.. 1st copy > - browser cache,.. 2nd copy > - main memory cache,.. 3rd copy > - graphcs memory,.. 4th copy > > - etc,.. > > This plainly breaks my copyright on the info stored on my web page, i > could sue for visiting my website !! I think when a document is placed on the WWW, it is implied that it is for public consuption. The very nature of the WWW means that whatever content exists is there not just to be viewed but specifically designed to be viewed by anyone with access to it (unless it is password protected) and it would be naive to place a document on the web without understanding the risks of somebody stumbling across it. It becomes illegal if I then, having downloaded, recycle code, graphics or content to meet my own grubby little ends :-) Also, if I get your address and type it in my browser, how am I supposed to know that what I am downloading is copyright until I see it? - Chris ------------------------------ message 47801 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47801 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:13:42 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: How much is that PCB in the wi...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sean, > Does anyone know how much a Merlin 4mb graphic card (pristine > condition,no box) > and a Macrovision2000 FlickerFixer are each worth.A couple of mates wil= l > buy them but i do not know how much each is worth. =A380 and =A330 respectively. The Microway flicker fixer only fits in an internal video slot, so it's only any good for an A2000 (A1500) or A4000,= but hasn't enough memory to display a full PAL Hires laced screen mode. All the best, -- = Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Psychiatrists say that 1 of 4 people are mentally ill. Check three friends. If they're OK, you're it. ------------------------------ message 47802 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47802 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:14:36 +0000 In-Reply-To: <38AD64D0.59AE77FA@ross-gill.co.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: AfCD134 Icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Christopher, > On another point, if you're going to throw your lot in with OS 3.5 (you > imply this will increasingly be the case), there is no need for a floppy > edition of AF, CD being a pre-requisite for OS 3.5, right? Absolutely, but if you look at the floppy, the icons shouldn't have changed on it... All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "You and Patricia deserve each other", said Tom meretriciously. ------------------------------ message 47803 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47803 From: "Anthony Prime" Date: 16 Feb 2000 17:50:41 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Spam? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Millar said something about [afb] Re: Spam? > Marl 'tecno' Wilson, are you brain-dead.....? [snip] > You really are a pratt - including a spam mail in your 'I hate spam mail'. > chris > -- > Why, you miserable cork-sucker! > -- Roman Moroni, Johnny Dangerously And a Fargin' one at that :D I thought only I remembered that film! -- Anthony Prime >>Powered by Amiga in Crewe anthony@prime.clara.co.uk ------------------------------ message 47804 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47804 From: "Anthony Prime" Date: 16 Feb 2000 18:01:38 +0000 In-Reply-To: <685.78T1685T6084383neil@wire.net.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: browsers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A Grinning Neil Bothwick said something about [afb] Re: browsers > > Also does anyone else know when BT are starting the BTSurftime? (6.99 for > > free weekday evening access) > BT are being very quiet about this, although they are in discussions > with OFTEL. It's not definite, but it looks like the ISPs won't see any > of that 6.99 so the "free" ISPs won't be able to offer it unless they > significantly reduce bandwidth and increase advertising sales. You enjoyed typing that didn't you Neil? :p -- Anthony Prime >>Powered by Amiga in Crewe anthony@prime.clara.co.uk ------------------------------ message 47805 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47805 From: Oliver Esberger Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:22:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: <88jnug$99c9@eGroups.com> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: Phase5 down the drain? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Mikey, On 18-Feb-00, you wrote: > I am aware that they have to deduct their costs from the actual > 100,000 in the UK. > > Remember, that 100,000 figure is the estimated amount for the UK only. > Add the rest of the world to that (Let's face it, the German Amiga > market is much bigger than the UK. (add US, Canada, rest of Europe and > Australia) and I bet you it comes to a damn sight more than 100,000. > > Now you have a huge backlog of orders for the Amiga. The more you > produce, the lower your costs. So in the end if they had switched > production to the Amiga, they would not have gone bankrupt. Kapish? I'm still not convinced... If we can come up with this ingenious plan, surely they could, too? (Then again, that's perhaps the definition of mismanagement ;) I still think there was more to it, and I know how bad their reviews have been in the mac press lately. Regards -- Oliver Esberger - mailto:oliver@websale.de ------------------------------ message 47806 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47806 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:37:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: How much is that PCB in the wi...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ben On 18-Feb-00, you wrote: > =A380 and =A330 respectively. The Microway flicker fixer only fits in a= n > internal video slot, so it's only any good for an A2000 (A1500) or A400= 0, > but hasn't enough memory to display a full PAL Hires laced screen mode.= You called it a Microway FlickerFixer,is this the name of the english distributer. As the German Benutzerhandbuch(see thats German that is!)says it is from 3state and called the MultiVision 500/2000 card. Yours Puzzeled, Sean. P.S. =A380 i only got =A360 for my Picasso II 2mb with original box/cable/software/ manuals(in German) is it because of the 4mb? POWERED BY: = A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Mode= m EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=3DStill looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit on= to it! (Any offers!) And today we are going to look through the round window!!= ------------------------------ message 47807 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47807 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:38:49 -0800 From: c.r.buchanan@hw.ac.uk X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons (updated poll) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 18/02/00 What do you think about the new style OS3.5 GlowIcons on AFCD50? ---- Please select one of the following: o They're great. Keep them. o Horrible! Get the tasty old style (newicons) back, but converted to OS3.5 format. o I hate them! Just use the newicons from previous AFCDs. None of this OS3.5 o Everything I've ever seen so far is revolting. Make something new! o I don't mind, let the wise leaders at AF decide. o Make them all orange to go with the magazine colour scheme. o They're okay; Pitty they're done by Matt Sealey ;-) by going to the following Web form: http://www.egroups.com/vote?id=950891929722&listname=afb Thank you! ------------------------------ message 47808 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47808 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:39:50 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: How much is that PCB in the wi...... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sean, >> =A380 and =A330 respectively. The Microway flicker fixer only fits in = an >> internal video slot, so it's only any good for an A2000 (A1500) or A40= 00, >> but hasn't enough memory to display a full PAL Hires laced screen mode= =2E > You called it a Microway FlickerFixer,is this the name of the english > distributer. > As the German Benutzerhandbuch(see thats German that is!)says it is fro= m > 3state and > called the MultiVision 500/2000 card. Sorry, beg pardon, I thought you'd said Microway. If it's the 3State one = it may be different. > P.S. =A380 i only got =A360 for my Picasso II 2mb with original > box/cable/software/ > manuals(in German) is it because of the 4mb? That and it's ZII/ZIII. All the best, -- = Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Excuse for the day: cosmic ray particles ------------------------------ message 47809 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47809 From: Robert Johnston Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:41:34 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons (updated poll) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: c.r.buchanan@hw.ac.uk [mailto:c.r.buchanan@hw.ac.uk] > Sent: 18 February 2000 16:39 > To: afb@egroups.com > Subject: [afb] POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons (updated poll) > > o They're great. Keep them. > o Horrible! Get the tasty old style (newicons) back, but > converted to OS3.5 format. > o I hate them! Just use the newicons from previous AFCDs. > None of this OS3.5 > o Everything I've ever seen so far is revolting. Make > something new! > o I don't mind, let the wise leaders at AF decide. > o Make them all orange to go with the magazine colour scheme. > o They're okay; Pitty they're done by Matt Sealey ;-) Can you not have the 3.5Icons for those on 3.5, the NewIcons for those with that format, and MagicWB for those with that? Just an idea... /me dons his flame-proof vest... -- Robert Johnston (A.C.P.) Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers 0870 727 4020 x657 Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk ==~ ? ------------------------------ message 47810 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47810 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:45:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: <38ADDFDC.37D8@knowles-hill.devon.sch.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: I'm off MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello xatiminey On 19-Feb-00, you wrote: > I'm off for half term. Half Term! Its only bleeding Feruary,i dont know the youth of today. Is Devon -0800 behind the rest of the UK,could explain why they all speak slower there. POWERED BY: A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto it! (Any offers!) Look out Bill,said Ben as Weed smacked him on the head with a rolling pin? ------------------------------ message 47811 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47811 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:50:49 -0800 From: "Paul Laycock" In-Reply-To: <38ADDA27.4EDE@knowles-hill.devon.sch.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Curry, > > How about "They're okay; I'd like them a bit more if they weren't done > > by Matt Sealey" ;) > > > Hey! Don't slag him off behind his back! No... I thought I had evaded his spies! Damn! > What about, "They're better than those nasty black ones" I like both. > or "I don't know - I don't have OS3.5 yet so all the colours are > psycadelic" I am insulted by such asn acusation! > or "Wow, groovy man, want some more mushrooms?" =P Or some cheese perhaps? Paul Laycock ------------------------------ message 47812 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47812 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:55:44 -0800 From: "Paul Laycock" In-Reply-To: <1AF46531C3DCD3119F6500D0B723B4B24EFCF7@THE_EXCHANGE> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons (updated poll) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Robert, > [POLL stuff] > Can you not have the 3.5Icons for those on 3.5, the NewIcons for those with > that format, and MagicWB for those with that? > > Just an idea... > > /me dons his flame-proof vest... Ah, you oughtnt have done that Rob... Paul Laycock ------------------------------ message 47813 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47813 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:54:27 +0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Polls and AFCD's icons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, It seems that according to one of the polls on the site, 56.3% of you are using OS3.5! Those guys obviously like the new OS3.5-style icons. If you don't think that 56.3% of all Amiga users are using the current OS, and you should know because you're one of those that isn't, perhaps it's artificially high because you haven't bothered to enter the poll? All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Stop metricationists! They are demanding their 454 grammes of flesh, and if we give them 2.54 centimetres they'll take 1.609 kilometres! ------------------------------ message 47814 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47814 From: Robert Johnston Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 16:56:17 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons (updated poll) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Laycock [mailto:amipal@yahoo.com] > Sent: 18 February 2000 16:56 > To: afb@eGroups.com > Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: AFCD50 GlowIcons (updated poll) > > Hi Robert, Hi, Paul. > > [POLL stuff] > > > Can you not have the 3.5Icons for those on 3.5, the NewIcons for > those with > > that format, and MagicWB for those with that? > > > > Just an idea... > > > > /me dons his flame-proof vest... > > Ah, you oughtnt have done that Rob... /me quickly dons the rest of his Flame-proof suit... -- Robert Johnston (A.C.P.) Customer Response Operative, Simply Computers 0870 727 4020 x657 Free delivery on the Web @ http://www.simply.co.uk Whaddya mean, Nuclear Winter? ------------------------------ message 47815 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47815 From: BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:59:39 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: 3 State FF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ben On 18-Feb-00, you wrote: > Sorry, beg pardon, I thought you'd said Microway. If it's the 3State one > it may be different. Yeah it has a Audio Amplifier on it with two outputs for speakers (2.1 Watt at 8 Ohms)that will certainly make you deaf.As you said not alot of memory VRAM (384KB Picture memory & 4KB Line Buffer). POWERED BY: A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc *=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto it! (Any offers!) Why was Windy Miller never struck by those bloody windmill sails,jammy git! ------------------------------ message 47816 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47816 From: "Rudi Butler" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:15:39 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: broken pcmcia and 1d4 motherboard fix. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Peter, >hey >Also does the 1d4 motherboard work with blizzard ppc cards without >fixes and with clock cards. If it does need a fix is there a diy way to >do so i don't have to pay something like thirty pounds to get it fixed. >Finally will blizzard ppc cards work in the original case of the a1200 >or does it need to be in a tower. I'm using a 1d4 with a BlizzardPPC but this whole revision/fix thing seems to vary. For example my old 2B mb is useless with an Apollo 1240/40 but my mates 2B works fine with it. Neither have been fixed since purchase. Also the clockport on my 2B has 40 pins his has 22. As for using a desktop case...I would strongly dissuade you from doing so. You're going to struggle with power (you could buy a better PSU) and it's going to get very HOT in there. Cheers, Rudi. ------------------------------ message 47817 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47817 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:21:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Andrews In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: AmiBench News MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Tyler Saxton wrote: > Once you've decided that it's a particular IP or range of IP > addresses, you could have the script refuse requests immediately when > the address matches, if you like. Tyler. If it's always the same IP then yes, if not you'll be isolating an entire ISPs customer base. Not good if it's a large one like Freeserve or Demon ;) bye, Chris ------------------------------ message 47818 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47818 From: "fool" References: <833.82T191T11892457neil@wire.net.uk> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:23:55 -0000 X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: network MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, > > have been looking at the pcmcia card from eyetech (do > > power do any?) so: > > The PowerLAN card is an Apollo card, I got one last week. Changing the subject slightly, does anyone know if it's possible to use a PocketLAN (it's a NIC that connects to the parallel port and has a BNC connector on it) on an Amiga? I suspect it's merely a case of needing suitable software, but does that software exist (an admittedly brief search of Aminet didn't help)? Martin. -- http://www.amine.co.uk ICQ: 61700031 ------------------------------ message 47819 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47819 Date: 18 Feb 2000 17:21:51 +0000 From: "Neil Bothwick" In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: browsers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anthony Prime said, > A Grinning Neil Bothwick said something about [afb] Re: browsers >> BT are being very quiet about this, although they are in discussions >> with OFTEL. It's not definite, but it looks like the ISPs won't see any >> of that 6.99 so the "free" ISPs won't be able to offer it unless they >> significantly reduce bandwidth and increase advertising sales. > You enjoyed typing that didn't you Neil? :p Not really, I'd much rather have typed something about when it will be available and who will offer it. There will be an option for the "free" ISPs, with a slightly lower call charge than at present. You'll have the choice of pay-per-minute or flat rate access. Another issue that hasn't been addresses publicly is that of ISPs who use other telcos for their main dialin lines. Since this is just about everyone but BT and their resellers, it is a very important issue. Neil -- Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider http://www.wire.net.uk -- I get enough exercise just pushing my luck. ------------------------------ message 47820 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47820 From: Matthew O'Neill Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 21:35:20 +0100 In-Reply-To: <507.82T1092T11904102neil@wire.net.uk> X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: bt go home MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Neil >> So sorry, I should've known that #BRITISH# telecom would have an american >> email address... > .com isn't American, it's a global commercial address. British telecom..... global.....british telecom.... global..... stupid company... Mash - -- Matthew O'Neill - MashMan HTTP://www.bigwig.net/mash I can seek clearly now, doublespace is gone... ------------------------------ message 47821 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47821 From: "Ben Vost" Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:33:20 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: bt go home MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Matthew, >>> So sorry, I should've known that #BRITISH# telecom would have an >>> american email address... >> .com isn't American, it's a global commercial address. > British telecom..... global.....british telecom.... global..... stupid > company... British Telecom *is* a global company! Besides which it's much easier just to type "bt" in your browser, than having to type "www.bt.co.uk". All the best, -- Ben Vost (x2337) /PGP key available/ T: (+44) 01225 442244 Editor, Amiga Format F: (+44) 01225 732275 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ *Taurus*: /(Apr 20-May 20)/ Your belief in the impossibility of having a level-headed discussion on the state of US race relations only intensifies when you turn into a horse. ------------------------------ message 47822 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47822 Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:39:12 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Andrews In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: bt go home MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 18 Feb 2000, Ben Vost wrote: > British Telecom *is* a global company! Besides which it's much easier just > to type "bt" in your browser, than having to type "www.bt.co.uk". ...and worst thing about this discussion? They DO own the bt.co.uk domain! ;) bye, Chris ------------------------------ message 47823 ------------------------------ http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb/?start=47823 From: Oliver Esberger Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 18:49:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com Subject: [afb] Re: afb page MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ben, On 15-Feb-00, you wrote: > Oh yes, and I've decided to do a "tip for the month" on that page as > well. ATM, I'm thinking of using Chris Dallimore's useful hint on how > to hide non-DOS disks from Installer and the like, but if any of you > have a more helpful suggestion, fire away. That was a VERY helpful tip, it annoyed me ever since I bought (yes, BOUGHT!) Fusion. Thanks again to Chris! Regards -- Oliver Esberger - mailto:oliver@websale.de ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- View the full archives, subscribe/unsubscribe, use the group calendar at http://www.eGroups.com/list/afb Manage your subscriptions at http://eGroups.com Free e-mail groups by eGroups.com.